What sir82 says. I would add to that that it was mostly put together as a text during and after the exile in Babylon. It was done methodically with hindsight BY YHWH supporters. In reality, evidence shows that they were just as polytheistic as any other nation of the world at that time.
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Israelities so easily influenced by foreign Gods, Why.
by jam ingod delivered the israelities to the promise land.. he shield them from egypt army, fed them in the.
wilderness, open the sea and aided them in.
defeating their enemies.. joshua:24;16 "far be it from us that we should.
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Musing about a New National Anthem That Says More Than: Something About A Flag Still Waving.
by frankiespeakin inwhat do you think should this 1814 ditty, be thrown in the scrap heap and be replaced by something far nobler than words about a skirmish with the mother land and keeping the republic emblem flapping in the breeze?.
what say yea?
personally i think there are much more nobler things that could be incorporated into a national anthem that would have a much more tremendous uplift for the nation,,and wish that some really talented enlightened poets and composers would put out there and perhaps in some not to future date be adopted.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/the_star-spangled_banner.
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I'm a big fan of "O Canada."
"America - F-Yeah!" from Team America: World Police should be our national anthem in the USA.
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Motives for starting the lie of Watchtower Authority.
by marriedtoajw ini have yet to come across anyones opinions, jw or not, of the personal motives of the leaders of the org.
to perpetuate what i guess we all would call the lie of the watchtoer authority.
in my opinion, i think that russell was an athiest out to show how easy it is to decieve people using the bible.
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I believe Russell was sincere but deluded. Rutherford was an opportunist who maybe sort-of believed in some of the doctrine but religion and truth were secondary to his own ego. Since then we have had a Rutherford mini-me in Knorr who by most accounts was a businessman more than a religious leader. Then there was the insane oracle of "Crazy" Freddie Franz who believed every word he ever wrote, even when they contradicted previous words. Henschel was a captive to the concepts built by his predecessors who rode the status quo until his death, and that was the end of the religious significance of the president of the Borg.
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I feel ethically compromised by Rick Fearon being allowed to continue posting here
by sabastious ini'm not entirely sure why, but rick has been the biggest trigger for me.
i have said some very mean things to him that i regret and i apologize to rick for them.
but what he is doing leaves me feeling dirty and i don't even know him.
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Mad Sweeney
You mean you guys AREN'T posting from a round rubber room? I'm the only one?
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what is the history of this site?
by tornapart inhi, i just wanted to know as i came here believing it is an 'anti-jw' site.
or at least one where former jws can meet together (or ones struggling within the wt).
yet looking at some early posts it seems it was originally for active jws.
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This place is the Wild West of Ex-JWs on the Internet and I LOVE IT that way.
There are places for more highbrow discussion. There are places more focused on support and recovery. But NO place has EVERYTHING like THIS place has.
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Elder father sent me an email about Feb 2012 WT - my resposne
by TheStumbler ini'm not sure if any of you will remember but i posted on here six months ago about a correspondence i was having with my dad, an elder, about who would die in armageddon.
i was asking some tough questions about children being killed in armageddon and i could tell he uncomfortable with the answers he was giving.. i drafted an email in resposne to his email but in the end i decided not to send it in the interest of maintaining friendly relations.. .
last week, out of the blue, my dad sent an email link to the february 2012 watchtower article about armageddon and said it would answer some of my questions.. here is my response which is a critique of the feb 2012 wt article and some of the broader ethics concerning 'armageddon'.
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They are taught that "illustrations" make your point clearer. They aren't taught that it doesn't work if your point is WRONG.
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Elder father sent me an email about Feb 2012 WT - my resposne
by TheStumbler ini'm not sure if any of you will remember but i posted on here six months ago about a correspondence i was having with my dad, an elder, about who would die in armageddon.
i was asking some tough questions about children being killed in armageddon and i could tell he uncomfortable with the answers he was giving.. i drafted an email in resposne to his email but in the end i decided not to send it in the interest of maintaining friendly relations.. .
last week, out of the blue, my dad sent an email link to the february 2012 watchtower article about armageddon and said it would answer some of my questions.. here is my response which is a critique of the feb 2012 wt article and some of the broader ethics concerning 'armageddon'.
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So typical. They are taught how NOT to reason and they label it "reasoning from the scriptures" so they THINK they CAN reason. In short, itsacult.
Have you read Steve Hassan's books, TheStumbler?
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Elder father sent me an email about Feb 2012 WT - my resposne
by TheStumbler ini'm not sure if any of you will remember but i posted on here six months ago about a correspondence i was having with my dad, an elder, about who would die in armageddon.
i was asking some tough questions about children being killed in armageddon and i could tell he uncomfortable with the answers he was giving.. i drafted an email in resposne to his email but in the end i decided not to send it in the interest of maintaining friendly relations.. .
last week, out of the blue, my dad sent an email link to the february 2012 watchtower article about armageddon and said it would answer some of my questions.. here is my response which is a critique of the feb 2012 wt article and some of the broader ethics concerning 'armageddon'.
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I haven't read all the comments so apologies if this has been addressed already. Great letter TheStumbler. I feel like the point needs to be made to your dad that you are not criticizing Jehovah himself by making clear the Watchtower's position that he is a baby killer - you are showing that the Watchtower is misrepresenting the loving God they claim to worship and represent. If they're mistaken on fundamental points like this one, what else can they not be trusted about?
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Are you CONFRONTED by Elders? 7 points to practice
by Terry inremember that old movie, the adventures of robin hood with erroll flynn?.
there is a scene where robin wants to cross a creek by walking across a log used as a bridge.
friar tuck is determined to stop him.. the are both standing on the log over the creek opposing each other with not-all-too-friendly banter.. somebody is going to end up in the water!.
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Young People Ask . . . March 2012 Awake
by sizemik ini read very little wts propaganda these days, even on-line stuff .
unless it's for a specific purpose.
most of you will identify with that.. i perused this article while checking out something else and was disturbed by the manipulative reasoning directed at jw youths.
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Mad Sweeney
I really feel for the kids...sad.